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		<title>By: falcore</title>
		<link>http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/american-apparel-raided-by-fbi/#comment-6223</link>
		<dc:creator>falcore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh ok i didn't really get that angle from the article I though the satire was pointing out what if the visible employees were working in dreadful sweatshop conditions. 

 As far as hyper-sexualized that shit is everywhere I was listening to a radio station and there was a 2 min ad. for Burger King, I think, that for about the first 2/3rd's of it  was a guy singing about how he likes flat buns. It was  chalk full of sexual innuendo and then at the end an announcer goes on about  some new sandwich or something. 

  It seems like sex is the last bastion for those marketing useless products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh ok i didn&#8217;t really get that angle from the article I though the satire was pointing out what if the visible employees were working in dreadful sweatshop conditions. </p>
<p> As far as hyper-sexualized that shit is everywhere I was listening to a radio station and there was a 2 min ad. for Burger King, I think, that for about the first 2/3rd&#8217;s of it  was a guy singing about how he likes flat buns. It was  chalk full of sexual innuendo and then at the end an announcer goes on about  some new sandwich or something. </p>
<p>  It seems like sex is the last bastion for those marketing useless products.</p>
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		<title>By: blackmetal666</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackmetal666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Southern New Jersey, about 15 minutes from Philadelphia.  To put things in perspective, this is "the north".  About 35 minutes south of me, in Millville, the Klan is still VERY active.  I also work with about a 50/50 mix of white and black co-workers.  All of my black co-workers were very interested/upset in the Jena 6 story.  The white ones?  Most of 'em probably couldn't tell you what happened.  It's very disheartening that more people (by people I mean white) aren't furious and fucking embarrassed by what happened and the fact that racism is still so prevalent in the U.S.  Kudos on the  Knowmore.org referencing.  Great site, and Sage Francis is fucking awesome too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Southern New Jersey, about 15 minutes from Philadelphia.  To put things in perspective, this is &#8220;the north&#8221;.  About 35 minutes south of me, in Millville, the Klan is still VERY active.  I also work with about a 50/50 mix of white and black co-workers.  All of my black co-workers were very interested/upset in the Jena 6 story.  The white ones?  Most of &#8216;em probably couldn&#8217;t tell you what happened.  It&#8217;s very disheartening that more people (by people I mean white) aren&#8217;t furious and fucking embarrassed by what happened and the fact that racism is still so prevalent in the U.S.  Kudos on the  <a href="http://Knowmore.org" title="http://Knowmore.org" target="_blank">Knowmore.org</a> referencing.  Great site, and Sage Francis is fucking awesome too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I think this whole discussion is satirical. 
¡Oops!
There I go again, swingin' away my loose blabbermouthlike lips.
Silly me.
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¿Is the frase "The Onion will make you cry" also satirical? ¿Or is that just plain and simple strategic marketing placing? Kick my nuts and call them gummybears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I think this whole discussion is satirical.<br />
¡Oops!<br />
There I go again, swingin&#8217; away my loose blabbermouthlike lips.<br />
Silly me.<br />
&#8212;<br />
¿Is the frase &#8220;The Onion will make you cry&#8221; also satirical? ¿Or is that just plain and simple strategic marketing placing? Kick my nuts and call them gummybears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: D-Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>D-Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify for those who fail to see satire when it is presented to them, &lt;b&gt;the linked article is not, in fact, "real."  It is satire.&lt;/b&gt;  The Onion publishes purely satirical articles.

As for what AA is "guilty of", I would say hyper-sexualized marketing, pushing to the teen porn aesthetic, an image-based hiring process in its stores, and a work environment that fosters sexual harassment.  To name a few.

The aforementioned Knowmore.org link provides a good overview of the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify for those who fail to see satire when it is presented to them, <b>the linked article is not, in fact, &#8220;real.&#8221;  It is satire.</b>  The Onion publishes purely satirical articles.</p>
<p>As for what AA is &#8220;guilty of&#8221;, I would say hyper-sexualized marketing, pushing to the teen porn aesthetic, an image-based hiring process in its stores, and a work environment that fosters sexual harassment.  To name a few.</p>
<p>The aforementioned <a href="http://Knowmore.org" title="http://Knowmore.org" target="_blank">Knowmore.org</a> link provides a good overview of the company.</p>
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		<title>By: falcore</title>
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		<dc:creator>falcore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what is AA guilty of</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what is AA guilty of</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i was about half way through the article when i realized it wasn't real. i think i need to stop smoking drugs so much. 

anyways, then i stopped reading it, i do find it quite disturbing. onions descriptions of AA are probably quite accurate in terms of real places in real life where these places do exist. 

i've never supported AA, though i did buy a few things though g7 that might have been AA, i dont know. but i see these adds in the weekly i like to read and it just makes me sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i was about half way through the article when i realized it wasn&#8217;t real. i think i need to stop smoking drugs so much. </p>
<p>anyways, then i stopped reading it, i do find it quite disturbing. onions descriptions of AA are probably quite accurate in terms of real places in real life where these places do exist. </p>
<p>i&#8217;ve never supported AA, though i did buy a few things though g7 that might have been AA, i dont know. but i see these adds in the weekly i like to read and it just makes me sick.</p>
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		<title>By: jammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya I definitely think its funny. Calling out advertising strategies "ambiguously ethnic" and how the models look "12-14" years of age yeah fuck i can get behind that bull honky. Its pretty clear that they are being ironic illustrating how   absurd their ad campaigns are and how ya they definitely border on sexual harassment as they objectify women for profit. It is clear they are making fun of the company employing such practices and not sexual harassment itself. Plus its comedy- dare you to find a comedian that isn't at least twice as offensive.  

And now to flog the deadest horse of all. I'm reading "the end of america: a letter of warning to a young patriot." by naomi wolf (who btw was on the ubiquitous colbert) and she explains how ..."Academe is a tinderbox of activism, so those seeking a fascist shift punish academics and students with professional loss if they do not "coordinate", in Goebbels' term, ideologically. Since civil servants are the sector of society most vulnerable to being fired by a given regime, they are also a group that fascists typically "coordinate" early on: the Reich Law for the Re-establishment of a Professional Civil Service was passed on April 7 1933.

Bush supporters in state legislatures in several states put pressure on regents at state universities to penalise or fire academics who have been critical of the administration. As for civil servants, the Bush administration has derailed the career of one military lawyer who spoke up for fair trials for detainees, while an administration official publicly intimidated the law firms that represent detainees pro bono by threatening to call for their major corporate clients to boycott them."  

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html

at least worth considering in regards to the Churchill case. I dont have the book here(its at school) but I'll expand on what she says later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya I definitely think its funny. Calling out advertising strategies &#8220;ambiguously ethnic&#8221; and how the models look &#8220;12-14&#8243; years of age yeah fuck i can get behind that bull honky. Its pretty clear that they are being ironic illustrating how   absurd their ad campaigns are and how ya they definitely border on sexual harassment as they objectify women for profit. It is clear they are making fun of the company employing such practices and not sexual harassment itself. Plus its comedy- dare you to find a comedian that isn&#8217;t at least twice as offensive.  </p>
<p>And now to flog the deadest horse of all. I&#8217;m reading &#8220;the end of america: a letter of warning to a young patriot.&#8221; by naomi wolf (who btw was on the ubiquitous colbert) and she explains how &#8230;&#8221;Academe is a tinderbox of activism, so those seeking a fascist shift punish academics and students with professional loss if they do not &#8220;coordinate&#8221;, in Goebbels&#8217; term, ideologically. Since civil servants are the sector of society most vulnerable to being fired by a given regime, they are also a group that fascists typically &#8220;coordinate&#8221; early on: the Reich Law for the Re-establishment of a Professional Civil Service was passed on April 7 1933.</p>
<p>Bush supporters in state legislatures in several states put pressure on regents at state universities to penalise or fire academics who have been critical of the administration. As for civil servants, the Bush administration has derailed the career of one military lawyer who spoke up for fair trials for detainees, while an administration official publicly intimidated the law firms that represent detainees pro bono by threatening to call for their major corporate clients to boycott them.&#8221;  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html'>http://www.guardian....y/0,,2064157,00.html</a></p>
<p>at least worth considering in regards to the Churchill case. I dont have the book here(its at school) but I&#8217;ll expand on what she says later.</p>
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		<title>By: falcore</title>
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		<dc:creator>falcore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so was that story about the models true or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so was that story about the models true or not?</p>
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		<title>By: diddee</title>
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		<dc:creator>diddee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horses for courses i guess. Monty Python aside, I myself don't care much for british humor ... 

I thought that Onion piece was a withering social critique on those wacko owners at AA. And funny as hell at the same time!

This Jena case is a truly distrubing manifestation of racism and a travesty of justice. Sad to see that bigotry is still alive &#38; well in 2007.

Michael Vick and O.J. are still dead to me, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horses for courses i guess. Monty Python aside, I myself don&#8217;t care much for british humor &#8230; </p>
<p>I thought that Onion piece was a withering social critique on those wacko owners at AA. And funny as hell at the same time!</p>
<p>This Jena case is a truly distrubing manifestation of racism and a travesty of justice. Sad to see that bigotry is still alive &amp; well in 2007.</p>
<p>Michael Vick and O.J. are still dead to me, however.</p>
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		<title>By: saoirse</title>
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		<dc:creator>saoirse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Therein lies my problem with it: I just don't find it funny. Sometimes the Onion is hilarious, but I find it pretty hit and miss. I certainly wouldn't compare this to the knowmore piece, but I guess you see hidden depths to it that I don't. Fair enough. Like I said, maybe I'm being over-sensitive, maybe we just have different senses of humour. Or both.

As for the Jena 6, I didn't actually realise the story was so big! I heard about the rallies and stuff but there really is a *lot* of coverage there. I guess any story like this that penetrates the mainstream is a good thing.  There's an interesting interview with one of the campus organisers here: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=30&#38;ItemID=13795</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Therein lies my problem with it: I just don&#8217;t find it funny. Sometimes the Onion is hilarious, but I find it pretty hit and miss. I certainly wouldn&#8217;t compare this to the knowmore piece, but I guess you see hidden depths to it that I don&#8217;t. Fair enough. Like I said, maybe I&#8217;m being over-sensitive, maybe we just have different senses of humour. Or both.</p>
<p>As for the Jena 6, I didn&#8217;t actually realise the story was so big! I heard about the rallies and stuff but there really is a *lot* of coverage there. I guess any story like this that penetrates the mainstream is a good thing.  There&#8217;s an interesting interview with one of the campus organisers here: <a href="http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=30&amp;ItemID=13795" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=30&amp;ItemID=13795'>http://www.zmag.org/...=30&amp;ItemID=13795</a></p>
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