Comments on: Food for Thought http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:23:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: punchpidge http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6176 punchpidge Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:07:43 +0000 http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6176 I doubt I'd eat that shit, mostly because it sounds 'orrible and partly because I wouldn't need to. But if it's lab grown-meat consumed by meat eaters, and that means animals aren't slaughtered for their consumption, then surely that's not a bad thing, non? That bit in article about 'exercising the meat' made me laugh. I had images of some insane laboratory with thousands of headless cow parts strapped into rowing machines before they hit the packaging and assembly line. Would it not just be easier to eat all the rich people instead? I doubt I’d eat that shit, mostly because it sounds ‘orrible and partly because I wouldn’t need to. But if it’s lab grown-meat consumed by meat eaters, and that means animals aren’t slaughtered for their consumption, then surely that’s not a bad thing, non?

That bit in article about ‘exercising the meat’ made me laugh. I had images of some insane laboratory with thousands of headless cow parts strapped into rowing machines before they hit the packaging and assembly line. Would it not just be easier to eat all the rich people instead?

]]> By: ben http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6174 ben Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:55:57 +0000 http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6174 well, my 3 cents is that i can't see how you could make the process more efficcient than nature herself. Sure, it may be popular with people that want to eat meat without a guilty concience, (and consitering how meat is currently made, i totally see this as an improvement, evern though i couldn't consume it myself) but how much energy would it take to produce the meat itself? From a strictly economic/resource conservation POV, i don't see how it can compete with growing veggies and grain directly. but i don't know the science involved, so maybe i am way off. But there seems to be a reoccuring theme that the farther away from direct natural cycles we get (which has been constantly evolving to be as efficient as possible) the more energy is wasted. well, my 3 cents is that i can’t see how you could make the process more efficcient than nature herself. Sure, it may be popular with people that want to eat meat without a guilty concience, (and consitering how meat is currently made, i totally see this as an improvement, evern though i couldn’t consume it myself) but how much energy would it take to produce the meat itself?
From a strictly economic/resource conservation POV, i don’t see how it can compete with growing veggies and grain directly. but i don’t know the science involved, so maybe i am way off.
But there seems to be a reoccuring theme that the farther away from direct natural cycles we get (which has been constantly evolving to be as efficient as possible) the more energy is wasted.

]]> By: kkev http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6172 kkev Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:31:00 +0000 http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6172 talking of meats and meat substitues, i thought y'all might be interested in reading about this havingapoo.blogspot.com/2007/07/placenta-party.html i've been vegan for 'bout 8 years for the usual reasons...some friends of ours recently had a kid and arranged a party to eat the placenta. they went to such an effort to make sure the placenta dish was vegan friendly that i felt i should really give it a go.. seems to me that its the perfect vegan meat..no cruelty or death involved, willingly donated and would otherwise be chucked away... also i'm pleased to say i didn't think it tasted that good..kinda like liver...so i feel reassured that i'm not missing out on anything by not eating meat. be warned you may find some of the pics in the link a little gruesome talking of meats and meat substitues, i thought y’all might be interested in reading about this

havingapoo.blogspot.com/2007/07/pla…

i’ve been vegan for ’bout 8 years for the usual reasons…some friends of ours recently had a kid and arranged a party to eat the placenta. they went to such an effort to make sure the placenta dish was vegan friendly that i felt i should really give it a go..

seems to me that its the perfect vegan meat..no cruelty or death involved, willingly donated and would otherwise be chucked away…

also i’m pleased to say i didn’t think it tasted that good..kinda like liver…so i feel reassured that i’m not missing out on anything by not eating meat.

be warned you may find some of the pics in the link a little gruesome

]]> By: soyuz http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6171 soyuz Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:42:34 +0000 http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6171 well....i don't care much for meat substitutes. i eat tofu for tofu, not because it "tastes like chicken." so yeah, i wouldn't be eating meat grown from a tissue. though if it happened to be safe to eat, it would cause less abuse of animals. so stick with veggies, real veggies. well….i don’t care much for meat substitutes. i eat tofu for tofu, not because it “tastes like chicken.” so yeah, i wouldn’t be eating meat grown from a tissue. though if it happened to be safe to eat, it would cause less abuse of animals. so stick with veggies, real veggies.

]]> By: saoirse http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6169 saoirse Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:39:18 +0000 http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6169 Speaking of murder (seamless, no?) tomorrow is your last chance to intervene in Beatrice's proposed removal to Cameroon. I don't wanna preach but it seems kinda lame that a mere one blog-reader-dude has added their name thus far to speak up for someone at serious risk. There may come a day when we compromise our own safety for our political principles and if that happens, I'd like to think our fundamental right to asylum would be respected and more fortunate activists would stand in solidarity. This particular removal has got to be illegal, political activism and mental health considered, and the Home Office should not get away with it. details: http://www.ncadc.org.uk/emmaginnsfolder/emmaginnsfolder/aug%2007/beatrice.htm Add your name by emailing: saoirse_ionannas_aonad@yahoo.co.uk Speaking of murder (seamless, no?) tomorrow is your last chance to intervene in Beatrice’s proposed removal to Cameroon. I don’t wanna preach but it seems kinda lame that a mere one blog-reader-dude has added their name thus far to speak up for someone at serious risk. There may come a day when we compromise our own safety for our political principles and if that happens, I’d like to think our fundamental right to asylum would be respected and more fortunate activists would stand in solidarity. This particular removal has got to be illegal, political activism and mental health considered, and the Home Office should not get away with it.
details: http://www.ncadc.org...ug%2007/beatrice.htm
Add your name by emailing: saoirse_ionannas_aonad [at] yahoo [dot] co.uk

]]> By: asshole http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6167 asshole Sun, 26 Aug 2007 06:11:30 +0000 http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6167 I still wouldn't eat this, by the looks of it, you still need the original cells. Even if you can create thousands from one, an animal still has to die (unless, they do something wacky, like take a sample of muscle via injection?) to get it. Even if you only need to kill a few cows or whatever to feed the world. Efficient meat is still murder! I still wouldn’t eat this, by the looks of it, you still need the original cells. Even if you can create thousands from one, an animal still has to die (unless, they do something wacky, like take a sample of muscle via injection?) to get it. Even if you only need to kill a few cows or whatever to feed the world. Efficient meat is still murder!

]]> By: jammer http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6166 jammer Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:46:51 +0000 http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6166 hey, Yeah not 100% sure how I feel about this. It is like when "people" said that GMO could feed the third world and thats why we need it. Thing is it didnt really happen. Sure if people would actually eat lab meat and that lab meat was actually a viable product I suppose I would prefer that to the current state of affairs. This reminds me of stories of how bacteria might evolve or be instilled with a taste for plastic in order to clean up our environment. "seems like something out of science fiction." Dont get me wrong I'm no ludite it just seems like we're fighting fire with gasoline sometimes. Anyway hope for the best I guess. http://ec.europa.eu/environment/etap/pdfs/oct06_plastic_degradation.pdf hey,

Yeah not 100% sure how I feel about this. It is like when “people” said that GMO could feed the third world and thats why we need it. Thing is it didnt really happen. Sure if people would actually eat lab meat and that lab meat was actually a viable product I suppose I would prefer that to the current state of affairs. This reminds me of stories of how bacteria might evolve or be instilled with a taste for plastic in order to clean up our environment. “seems like something out of science fiction.” Dont get me wrong I’m no ludite it just seems like we’re fighting fire with gasoline sometimes. Anyway hope for the best I guess.

http://ec.europa.eu/...stic_degradation.pdf

]]> By: falcore http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6165 falcore Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:58:23 +0000 http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6165 It seems to me that as far as world hunger the issue is more about access to food rather than having enough like tom was saying about factory farms they are quite wasteful. Only because it is to serve profits not people and if the major share holders and boards of directors don't care about the human race it is not too much of a shock that they don't regard non human animals as real life forms either. I truly believe that most humans are not greedy I just think that at least in the west most people are not socially conscience so they don't always think about the effects of their actions on others. Many people are not raised to think about it , I wasn't and it has taken me many years to wake up to it, nor is it in pop culture everything is competition based and not cooperation. At most jobs I have had I always here the slogan " we need to be a team" but it that always seems to translate into " I'm the boss now do what I say, as a team" and then one of two are singled out on the "team" and are given more than the others through autocratic decisions of merit. Back to the lab meat I just seems like somebody is trying to build a "better" car instead of creating to efficient reliable transportation that everybody can have access to. It seems to me that as far as world hunger the issue is more about access to food rather than having enough like tom was saying about factory farms they are quite wasteful. Only because it is to serve profits not people and if the major share holders and boards of directors don’t care about the human race it is not too much of a shock that they don’t regard non human animals as real life forms either.
I truly believe that most humans are not greedy I just think that at least in the west most people are not socially conscience so they don’t always think about the effects of their actions on others. Many people are not raised to think about it , I wasn’t and it has taken me many years to wake up to it, nor is it in pop culture everything is competition based and not cooperation. At most jobs I have had I always here the slogan ” we need to be a team” but it that always seems to translate into ” I’m the boss now do what I say, as a team” and then one of two are singled out on the “team” and are given more than the others through autocratic decisions of merit.

Back to the lab meat I just seems like somebody is trying to build a “better” car instead of creating to efficient reliable transportation that everybody can have access to.

]]> By: tom http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6164 tom Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:10:58 +0000 http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6164 http://west.petfinder.com/shelters/QC12.html meow! http://west.petfinde...m/shelters/QC12.html

meow!

]]> By: tom http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6163 tom Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:03:42 +0000 http://g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/archives/food-for-thought/#comment-6163 i'm not so sure that eating "fake meat" does alienate us from nature. i mean, we drive fucking cars and we take shits in fucking toilets, so, human beings have always used technology to make life easier for us. and don't think there's anything necesarily wrong with that, but you have to obviously examine where the stuff comes from etc.... as the incredibly handsome and virile derek hogue once said "we live in concrete jungles." i dont really like fake meat except for make tofu dogs or veggie dogs, maybe that fake ground beef stuff with lots of taco mix. mmmmm juicy tacos. but i think that most humans still dont realize how much total garbage and waste is caused by the meat industry, the selfishness and apathy it encourages, and the death and destruction and cruelty it brings. here in quebec, many of our lakes and rivers cant be swam in or touched or nudie dived in because of green algae, which dumbfounded scientists for about 2 days. then they realized that quebec has the laxest and lamest laws regarding the ways we farm our pigs here, and all the piggy turds and piss get washed out into the rivers, lakes, and now we cant enjoy them, the fish die, and the world sucks even more. quebec is the largest porc producer in canada and that makes me sad, i wish i could stop all the boxcars i see, and i see alot of them. quebec is also notorious for puppy mills, a place where unwanted, lost or disregarded puppies can turn their already horrible lives into absolute nightmares and that makes me fucking sad too, especially when i picture my dogs in there. one of my dogs is actually from a rescue shelter and i'd probably be dead if I didnt have my bud greet me when i get home everyday. most humans just dont value life at all. all thats cared about is instant gratification (mind out of gutter), profits etc... i dont really know what im getting at here, but the past few weeks have been really depressing, reading about these pig farms and puppy mills. so depressing in fact that i may get off my lazy sexy vegan garting ass and join spca, or lucky rescue, the local animal rescue shelter, also where i got my dog, apptly named lucky. aw durgh! im sorry i needed to rant like that, a life without animals aint no life worth living, and to any fucknosed animal abusing sport hunting fuckfaces out there, just a personal "please go kill yourself" from me to you. i’m not so sure that eating “fake meat” does alienate us from nature. i mean, we drive fucking cars and we take shits in fucking toilets, so, human beings have always used technology to make life easier for us. and don’t think there’s anything necesarily wrong with that, but you have to obviously examine where the stuff comes from etc….

as the incredibly handsome and virile derek hogue once said “we live in concrete jungles.”

i dont really like fake meat except for make tofu dogs or veggie dogs, maybe that fake ground beef stuff with lots of taco mix. mmmmm juicy tacos.

but i think that most humans still dont realize how much total garbage and waste is caused by the meat industry, the selfishness and apathy it encourages, and the death and destruction and cruelty it brings. here in quebec, many of our lakes and rivers cant be swam in or touched or nudie dived in because of green algae, which dumbfounded scientists for about 2 days. then they realized that quebec has the laxest and lamest laws regarding the ways we farm our pigs here, and all the piggy turds and piss get washed out into the rivers, lakes, and now we cant enjoy them, the fish die, and the world sucks even more. quebec is the largest porc producer in canada and that makes me sad, i wish i could stop all the boxcars i see, and i see alot of them. quebec is also notorious for puppy mills, a place where unwanted, lost or disregarded puppies can turn their already horrible lives into absolute nightmares and that makes me fucking sad too, especially when i picture my dogs in there. one of my dogs is actually from a rescue shelter and i’d probably be dead if I didnt have my bud greet me when i get home everyday.

most humans just dont value life at all. all thats cared about is instant gratification (mind out of gutter), profits etc…

i dont really know what im getting at here, but the past few weeks have been really depressing, reading about these pig farms and puppy mills. so depressing in fact that i may get off my lazy sexy vegan garting ass and join spca, or lucky rescue, the local animal rescue shelter, also where i got my dog, apptly named lucky. aw durgh!

im sorry i needed to rant like that, a life without animals aint no life worth living, and to any fucknosed animal abusing sport hunting fuckfaces out there, just a personal “please go kill yourself” from me to you.

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