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G7 Radio – Episode 3

Posted by Chris on 04/04/06 (Shite)

Ok, farthands, episode 3 of our unbelievable radio show is up and ready to be disbelieved.

Our special guest on this edition is one Jordy-Boy Samolesky, not only of Propagandhi, but also of the Canada-Haiti Action Network.

Ok, people, so try to keep the comments within the ball-park, will ya? When and if we do an episode about the alleged controlled-demolition of the World Trade Towers, you may then go to town about it. Until then, you are asked to limit your comments to this issues of farting, drinking, camel-toe, frank zappa and the Haitian struggle for independence. Thanks.

Addition from D-Rock: And as always, vote for this shiznatt on Podcast Alley so we can win a million dollars!

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  • Comment by Pidgey on April 4th, 2006 at 4:30 pm:

    “Dink eyed freak.” My new insult.

    Brilliant.

  • Comment by Malcolm on April 4th, 2006 at 5:32 pm:

    Nice one. You guys need to play some damn Voivod.

  • Comment by tom on April 4th, 2006 at 6:38 pm:

    does jordan like smelling his own farts?does he also cup his hand under his ass while flatulating, and then smell his fingers? i always thought i was alone……

    cryptopsy? the artist formerly knows as prince? bikini kill? cat power? celine dion? wellesey willis?

    in montreal, pierre pettigrew was voted off of his seat in the villeray/st.michel/park x riding. largely due to immense organizing by the haitian community. i wouldve loved to have seen the look on the ugly motherfuckers face.

    its really weird because i have TETA on “soviet” red vynil. didnt buy it off ebay either, and fat was the one who released it too…..

  • Comment by Wilson on April 4th, 2006 at 6:59 pm:

    So how about that Operation Charging Bison and the major deployment of troops planned for 2008? oops sorry, I’ll wait.

  • Comment by alex on April 4th, 2006 at 8:12 pm:

    Incidentally, I have both TE,TA *and* The Battle of Los Angeles.

    Good to see the podcasts continuing — informational, entertaining, musically-enriched and, surprisingly, given the involvement of Propagandhi members, on time!

    Unlike a tour of Canada, or, say, I don’t know, at least a Montreal show maybe.

    *shrugs*

    En tout cas, keep up the good work!

  • Comment by Hairhole on April 4th, 2006 at 9:43 pm:

    Holy Greasey fart-Stain Samolsky!!!

    Another Wonderful poodcast gentlemyns. ‘Harrison Jord’ was a very informative and enjoyable guest for this month (basically). Haiti eh…sounds neat. Anti-Flag told me that Aristide was ’snuffed out by the C.I.A’, so I already new. But thanks anyways. I bought the new Anti-Flag for $12.99 at me local A and B Shit store (’cause two wrongs make a right). I didn’t mind the record after I read their essays in the liner notes.

    Speaking of being told what songs are about: is that NOFX song you played taking a dig at you guys? I’m confused.

    You guys should get ‘the rod’ on sometime. I fucking love that guy, you know why, because he makes me feel like I’m outside an outhouse smelling farts, and I can fucking hear the farts coming out, and they go so fucking long you can hear them from across the yard, and you fucking run in through the door, and there’s more than one person, and fucking you jump inside because the farts are so good, and you don’t know what’s happening, but then you buildup a fart, before their next fart kicks in, because their other farts were so long, and your so excited you can hardly believe it that everybody’s there, and you’re just going TOTALLY FUCKING COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY FUCKING CRAAAAZZZYYYY!!!

    O.K, enough for now. Keep on making me giggle (teehee). Looking forward to next months episoode, and me new Potemkin City Limits double LP!!! World Peace. Gord Bless.
    Hairhole.

    p.s- I realize this is a stolen alias. However, I have compounded the respective syllables in the vein attempt to mask my lack of creativity. Please don’t judge me.

  • Comment by Ed on April 5th, 2006 at 8:45 am:

    I move that “Hairhole” be banned from this blog.

  • Comment by Marc on April 5th, 2006 at 8:59 am:

    Awesome stuff, as usual.

    Prime minishahshasha…

  • Comment by Danarcho on April 5th, 2006 at 9:16 am:

    You know what’s more fun than monthly radio shows? Bi-monthly radio shows!

    But yeah that was fun, good job again.

    How do you guys record the show anyway? I would do it with a computer, a stolen program (ie Goldwave), a splitter, and some mics. Then I’d cut and paste mp3s and mix em between/over my talking, but what you guys do sounds authentic.

  • Comment by Kyle on April 5th, 2006 at 1:16 pm:

    I like how you guys added an ‘are’ to “the Marxist Brothers” like Fat Mike did to “Today’s Empires, Tomorrow’s Ashes.” That was deep.

  • Comment by D-Rock on April 5th, 2006 at 1:30 pm:

    Danarcho: we record the show live to 2″ tape in Mondragón’s walk-in cooler (the acoustics are great!). Soon, when our $200,000 radio studio is built, we’ll be getting a PowerMac 6400/200, SoundEdit 16 and 14″ monitor, so hopefully we’ll be more efficient then. Very exciting!

  • Comment by jeremy on April 5th, 2006 at 2:21 pm:

    It’s funny that Fat Mike goofs up the name of a record he put out himself.

    But hey! Did you know that some people who associate themselves with anarchism and other progressive/social justice movements are sometimes somewhat hypocritical and shallow?????????!!!!!!

    I honestly don’t think I would be aware of this if NOFX weren’t around to put 3 mediocre reggae songs about it on every record they shit out.

    I guess I clearly am not sincere about wanting to put participatory economic values into practice. I mean fuck, I have iTunes. That just screws the whole pooch.

  • Comment by soyuz on April 5th, 2006 at 7:18 pm:

    I wanted to really pay attention and know more about Canada’s involvement in Haiti but, I couldn’t stop cracking up into uncontrollable, heart-attack inducing laughter after everytime Jord said “basically.” It’s like the overuse of the work “like” in like everything. Oh yeah, nice use of the word “elucidate.” Truly a wordy word along the lost standing tradition of “Propagandhi.” ….hells yeah…

  • Comment by Yaniv on April 5th, 2006 at 9:21 pm:

    Great job guys, one again. The situtation of Haiti is prevalent here where I live, Miami, based on the large scale of Haitian emigres who live in South Florida. Just two months ago, when father Jean-Juste was in critical conditions while imprisoned, there was a massive demonstration that paralyzed the city’s downtown area. Many, like Jean-Juste, are political prisoners who have undergone solitary confinement interdeterminably while being denied the human right to a due process. The violations of human-rights in Haiti since Aristride was ousted have been gruesomely comparable to those perpetrated by monstrous regimes in the past – perhaps tantamount to those by the Duvalier oligarchy. It seems, though, that in comparison to here in the U.S, Canadian activists have been more efficient in raising awareness through diligent organizing and more participation.

  • Comment by sam on April 6th, 2006 at 1:05 pm:

    what is all this shit with propagandhi and nofx. i am really confused about the whole thing please explain?

  • Comment by Danarcho on April 6th, 2006 at 7:18 pm:

    A $200 000 radio studio? More efficient? Ha!
    But seriously then, would all that spent money prompt you to more frequently produce fun little programs? I mean I’m not sure of all the quirks of what you’re doing (where you’re putting the equipment, what you plan to do with it) but it be sweet to have maximum G7 radio…get some dj who will work for peanuts (from Mexico or something) and make him play the best in… radical Mexican music! Really though, of all the radio programs where someone or other chooses what I listen to, I’d rather let you guys choose.

    A little off topic here but…could you release the latest Chumbawamba?

  • Comment by peterpiperpickedapocketofpibbledpeckers on April 6th, 2006 at 9:11 pm:

    hahahaha “jord smolinski”

  • Comment by drew on April 6th, 2006 at 10:16 pm:

    again, great podcast guys! i said it before and ill say it again, radio just doesnt get better than this. its nice to hear jordy boy and the information on haiti. i learned quite a bit while simultaneously becoming outraged at the fact that people continue to fuck other people (not to forget animals) over. so unnecessary. so tragic.

    sam, i dont think there really is much “shit” between propagandhi and nofx at all. prop rightfully and unflinchingly put the current state of punk rock in its place in the song “rock for sustainable capitalism.” thats all.

    p.s. i say we hold a vegan bake sale to raise funds for the $200,000 radio studio. this world needs G7 radio!

  • Comment by Riley on April 7th, 2006 at 6:53 am:

    great show guys. but, why must you guys always pick on poor Jordan? if you prick him, does he not bleed! hahaha…

  • Comment by Pidge on April 7th, 2006 at 7:14 am:

    Are we all now stuck with this ‘podcast’ word?

    Seriously, I don’t even know what it means.

    Internet radio?! That you can play on an iPod!?

    I’d rather hear a Rodcast. Sort of a rambling brilliance, that you can play on the interweb.

    furp.

  • Comment by I Enter Canada on April 7th, 2006 at 10:36 am:

    can i post images here

  • Comment by I Enter Canada on April 7th, 2006 at 10:36 am:

    shit
    http://img207.images...73/cornbrator8zo.jpg

  • Comment by Bill Watchechka on April 7th, 2006 at 12:45 pm:

    more farting!!! more rock!! more!!!
    I hate you egg.

  • Comment by jason on April 7th, 2006 at 1:18 pm:

    …..camel-toe must be contagious

  • Comment by jason on April 8th, 2006 at 8:50 am:

    speaking of camel-toe….
    http://www.prosoundw...n/Photofun/Elvis.jpg

  • Comment by Benjamin Grundy on April 8th, 2006 at 9:05 pm:

    Hey guys, I just wanted to say thanks for another solid episode of G7 radio. You guys manage to consistently be quite informative and bloody hilarious. Keep up the good work, I find myself learning something new every episode.

    P.S. Derek’s cancer line had laughing hysterically!

  • Comment by somestupidmade-upname on April 9th, 2006 at 2:08 am:

    $200,000?!?….are you joking??? that’s absurd. you’re doing a podcast, not running the fucking BBC….

  • Comment by tom on April 9th, 2006 at 6:33 am:

    a website sure to be of interest to all of you (or at least the humans at g7):

    http://www.heptune.com/farts.html

  • Comment by Benjamin Grundy on April 9th, 2006 at 12:14 pm:

    Dear somestupidmade-upname,

    I don’t think you pick up on sarcasm too well do you?

  • Comment by Jennifer on April 9th, 2006 at 4:15 pm:

    I wasn’t aware that TETA was released on colored vinyl, which is the only positive thing that has come out of me listening to a NOFX song. I’ll keep my eyes peeled and I’ll use all the money I saved from NOT bidding $40+ on a Propagandhi shirt on ebay!

    Were LTMR and HTCE released on colored vinyl? Sorry, I’m a fucking nerd with these things, although I’m definitely not getting PCL in color because meager mailed in orders are no match to all the punx with their Visas and Mastercards… And ipods with podcasts.

    As for the radio show, I liked it. Not only could it have been a good listen for weathered activists, but you guys set the groundwork for the basics of Haiti so that budding “revolutionaries” weren’t utterly confused by it all. Plus, I have a deep fetish for Jord’s voice. No lie.

  • Comment by Joe on April 9th, 2006 at 6:01 pm:

    For what it’s worth, Podcasts have nothing to do with iPods. It means Personal-on-demand.

  • Comment by D-Rock on April 9th, 2006 at 7:45 pm:

    Jennifer: TETA was not, in fact, ever released on colour vinyl. Nor were any other Propagandhi records on Fat to my knowledge.

    As for getting the PCL colour vinyl, if you placed your order – even if it was to be sent in by mail – before we announced the sell-out, you’re in line to get one.

  • Comment by drew on April 9th, 2006 at 9:15 pm:

    “TETA was not, in fact, ever released on colour vinyl.”

    it wasnt? cuz i have a red one right here in my room.

    jennifer, im a total collecter nerd too. but only when it comes to prop.

  • Comment by tom on April 9th, 2006 at 11:02 pm:

    its funny i used to have like every rare NOFX record and all these other mythical “punk” artifacts (including TETA on red) and ive sold them all for drugs except for the prop stuff. for some reason im always yearning for rare propagandhi.

    im glad im not the only one who still mails in orders!

    oh and im selling my TETA on red for 2,000,000$ or a jetliner if anyones interested…….

  • Comment by somestupidmade-upname on April 9th, 2006 at 11:24 pm:

    oh benjamin,

    i guess i have trouble recognising North American humour when it’s not being punctuated with canned laughter

  • Comment by C-Wipe on April 10th, 2006 at 6:45 am:

    derek has apparently been experimenting with a rare variety of crack-cocaine.

    yes, virginia, TETA was released on red vinyl.

  • Comment by D-Rock on April 10th, 2006 at 7:24 am:

    It’s actually not a rare variety. It’s just your run-of-the-mill street rock.

  • Comment by kale on April 10th, 2006 at 9:11 am:

    if it’s any consolation, the Fat Shitcast has nothing on G7 radio!Hurrah for flatulence!

  • Comment by tom on April 10th, 2006 at 2:06 pm:

    moderation people!

  • Comment by Jennifer on April 10th, 2006 at 8:00 pm:

    virginia? who’s virginia? or is this crack addiction collective?

    i don’t have many ‘rare’ propagandhi releases, maybe just the stuff put out by recess. my record collection is strongly based on no idea (and related label’s) releases, which is fun because all their releases are on nice colors, rare or not. i totally have left and leaving (on sub city) in color though. and the i spy lp.

    do you guys have lists on recordnerd or something?

  • Comment by tom on April 10th, 2006 at 9:52 pm:

    oh i fucking love recess!!!!!! i actually FOUND a copy of the ispy propagandhi split. the light of jesus shon upon me that day. and fuck im happy about getting POTEMKIN ON COLOUR MAWFAWKERS!

  • Comment by drew on April 11th, 2006 at 1:20 am:

    jennifer er.. virginia? haha
    i dont have a list. but perhaps i should make one? is it a site where people list what they have and what they want and what they will trade and stuff?

  • Comment by drew on April 11th, 2006 at 1:20 am:

    i want to hear chris and derek’s favorite bad religion songs on the next episode.

  • Comment by blah on April 11th, 2006 at 11:16 am:

    The radio show was both informative and entertaining. Not sure what you guys could have done to make it better.

    There’s my feedback, now how ’bout some quid pro quo? Will there ever be any dates added to the Crimean Tour? If so, where?

    Thanks!

  • Comment by blah on April 11th, 2006 at 11:17 am:

    When i say Crimean Tour I am referring to a Propagandhi Tour.

  • Comment by kale on April 11th, 2006 at 11:00 pm:

    i want to hear Chris interview Glen from Propagandhi ****shifty eyes, accompanied by suspicious look****

  • Comment by tom on April 12th, 2006 at 12:38 pm:

    i second that notion! and hey- isnt chris wrong for fighting over dead chicken bodies at KFC?

  • Comment by sam on April 12th, 2006 at 3:00 pm:

    Looking forward to hearing this latest show, but sadly I’m on dialup, so it takes fucking FOREVER to download. I really enjoyed the last two, although the first one wasn’t nearly as good and informational as the second one…

    I have to ask though, with regard to the whole Propagandhi/NOFX tit for tat lyrical jibs and jabs (on which I COMPLETELY side with Propagandhi’s critique of the sickening state of co-opted “punk” music), WHY THE FUCK is Propagandhi still on Fat? Why the fuck was the most recent album on Fat?

    When Propagandhi professes to take an ethical stand with regard to Fat – and everything that label has come to represent – and then puts a record (that SAME record) out on that label, I think some cohesive explanation should be made.

    I am well aware that there are more prescient issues to discuss – Haiti in particular with regard to this show – and its a shame that these kinds of issues get more airplay, but that is mostly because of the bullshit drama aspects. I want to make it clear that my point of inquiry has nothing to do with that (at least its not my intention), but more along the lines of approaching the ethical issues of political music.

    After all, I would guess that Propagandhi still in some way subscribes to the notion that “the medium is the message” or at least an some form of that idea?

    I just really think this point needs to be addressed on the band’s FAQ section on their website, and not in some patronizing two word answer. Ultimately I just find it kind of disheartening that hasn’t severed all ties with Fat – and the bullshit BUSINESS it represents – rather than just have a few “gotcha” jabs on their latest record.

  • Comment by Hairhole on April 12th, 2006 at 4:17 pm:

    Will somebody please tell Glen that the Maple Leafs suck donkey dong. Go Canucks Go.

  • Comment by kale on April 12th, 2006 at 4:23 pm:

    are you nuts? it’s go flames go

  • Comment by kale on April 12th, 2006 at 4:24 pm:

    GO FLAMES GO!

  • Comment by Hairhole on April 12th, 2006 at 5:26 pm:

    Haha, no way. The only team lamer than the Leafs are, in fact, the Flames.

    Reason Number one: They took the Cup from Montreal in their own building in ‘89. I can’t forgive that. I don’t follow the East too much, but I know the Canadians are by far the coolest team over there.

    Reason number two: you can’t like the Oilers and the Flames at the same time (can you?) Naw, you can’t.

    Which brings me to reason number three: “Do you see the analogy? We’re the Oilers. The World Bank- the Flames!”

    In Conclusion, the World Bank sucks, and so do the Flames and the Leafs. Both teams have respectable captains blithering away on lousy clubs that outta be locked in a room with greasy vegans while they release their vegetable methane, and then kicked outta the NHL.

    Glen: your playoff hopes died when Montreal cleaned their cornholes with the Leafs a few weeks back.

    Kale: the Canucks are gonna end the season 3-0, and we’ll see you in the second round (if Iginla and that drunk you got between the pipes takes ya that far).

  • Comment by tom on April 12th, 2006 at 5:26 pm:

    uhhh….you guys can stop boasting over the flames(kale), the canucks(hairhole) and the leafs(glen): you are all doomed.

    its les canadiens who are going to kill. cristobal!

    GO HABS GO MUTHAS!

  • Comment by tom on April 12th, 2006 at 5:28 pm:

    its canadiEns, in either language, hairhole. just being clear. for you maudite anglais it “the habs” ok dere?

  • Comment by justin on April 12th, 2006 at 9:54 pm:

    just wait until the flames make it to the finals again. you’ll jump the wagon… again, like so many others did last season.

    and FYI, it will be ottawa and the flames in the finals this time. mark my words.

  • Comment by kale on April 12th, 2006 at 10:21 pm:

    “Reason number two: you can’t like the Oilers and the Flames at the same time (can you?) Naw, you can’t. Do you see the analogy? We’re the Oilers. The World Bank- the Flames!”

    yes, YES… that’s clearly relevant.

    anyway, if the canucks are so good, and the flames are not, why are the flames division leaders and why is vancouver down *there* with minnesota? reason: the canucks are a horrible team. plain and simple.

    the only thing the canucks would ever lead the entire league in, is having the ugliest jersey imagineable.

    hahahaha

  • Comment by kale on April 12th, 2006 at 10:22 pm:

    the ‘Nucks dont even have a playoff spot, as we speak!

  • Comment by Hairhole on April 13th, 2006 at 12:00 am:

    Hahaha. Reason two and three are fuckin’ relevent and you know it (probably about as relevent as us discussing hockey on here). I’m just waiting for D-Rock to come and yell at us. That guy can sure make one feel small (see attempted compliment on Animal rights blog, which subsequently turned into some form of ‘cyber’ sex, in which we exchanged handjobs until both parties were happy).

    Alls I’m saying is the Flames are a lame-ass team to cheer for, and Bertuzzi could break anyone of their necks if he wanted to. But, I don’t look too cool after blowing a point tonight against San Jose. So I’ll fuckin’ stick a green hard hat on my head and call myself a dildo now.
    P.S your shifty eyes comment was pretty fucking funny man.

  • Comment by drew on April 13th, 2006 at 12:42 am:

    hey guys? i think you are getting off topic here. there’s much more pressing issues we need to stick to, like camel toe and farting. no more hockey.

  • Comment by kale on April 13th, 2006 at 6:07 am:

    hahaha… it’s jord! : http://www.edition-p.../propagandhi/21.html

  • Comment by caítlin on April 13th, 2006 at 7:30 am:

    Sorry to interupt/be boring, but i think getting advocates of different movements on is a great idea. Especially ones with senses of humour. It’d be really cool to hear one on immigration/asylum issues some day, as its literally a life and death matter, yet most of us don’t really think about it much. Maybe you could find someone from No-one Is Illegal, if that groups still exists (I think there was a group called that? I may have my wires crossed).

    …I still haven’t worked out what camel toe is :/

  • Comment by tom on April 13th, 2006 at 8:11 am:

    caitlin: camel toe is when certain body parts are cushioned up against really tight light fabric to form what looks like a camel toe. think about what a camel toe looks like, and you will understand why it is so funny.

    or just go here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_toe

    oh and drew- you might as well support the canadiens- it will do you good.

  • Comment by Danarcho on April 13th, 2006 at 9:09 am:

    Bring back the Jets!!!

  • Comment by Pidge on April 13th, 2006 at 9:20 am:

    I could think of some other – ahem – *dedicated*, camel-toe websites to visit. But that would just be wrong of me.

  • Comment by kale on April 13th, 2006 at 2:24 pm:

    quick, sort of off topic question here, but i was reading the booklet that came with LTMR, and i noticed that they often write things like: wimmin, humynz(HTCE), etc. im just curious is all…

    and as for the hockey thing, worst case scenario, let’s just be happy if the cup comes back to canada, agreed? if? i mean WHEN!

    patience people… patience…

  • Comment by kale on April 13th, 2006 at 2:26 pm:

    “Bring back the Jets!!!”

    i agree… this city has never been the same since!

  • Comment by caítlin on April 13th, 2006 at 3:16 pm:

    The logic behind spelling it “womyn”, “wimmin” etc is that people object to what they see as institutionalised patriarchy (that is to say, the established dominance of, and exploitation by, men and maleness within various forms of hierarchy) within practically every facet of being, including language.. For example, the dubious etymology of the word “vagina”. The alternate spelling of certain words, and the reclaiming of others (eg, the word Cunt) is an attempt to liberate from that culture of socialised prejudice. If you’re interested, the book “cunt – a declaration of independance” by inga muscio is a good place to start.

  • Comment by abe on April 13th, 2006 at 4:22 pm:

    Caitlin:

    I always thought “cunt” was the LAST thing you ever call a womyn, unless you were looking for a kick in the scrote. So if I understand correctly, “cunt” is now a mild derogatory term akin to, say, “dick”, and “vagina” is now akin to a verbal “nuclear option,” so to speak?

    Considering my luck with womyn, it would probably come in handy to know, lest I make an even bigger ass out of myself than I usually do!

  • Comment by caítlin on April 13th, 2006 at 4:48 pm:

    Its gets very complex to keep up with the terminology of the day, I know – since the word “cunt” had taken on such an extremely crude and pejorative meaning when related to women, and was seen as so inherently sexist – to attack a women by referring insultingly to her genitalia – it was considered necessary by the feminst movement to “reclaim” cunt, to redefine it by their terms.. especially considering the absolute absense of any pro-women/non-perjorative words for our good friend the bajingo (vagina, as i said, being steeped in sexist etymology, not bothering with the many other vaguely inappropriate terms which never prompted quite the same reaction, if any). As such, to a certain layer of feminists, cunt has taken on a new meaning, as a liberating, unashamed re-creation (or more accurately re-identification) of the things women typically feel, or are made to feel, embarrassed or ashamed by. So in fact, in its “new” context, it is not remotely derogatory… its just a matter of getting word out ;)
    I wouldn’t go around using “right ye cunt?” as a chat-up line any time soon, but its a form of protest for some women which I think makes a lot of sense when you view it within the context of a struggle largely fought within the structures of the very phenomena it seeks to destroy (much like racism). “The Master’s Tools Will Never Dismantle The Master’s Rape Rack”, etc.
    Hope that helps :)

  • Comment by kale on April 13th, 2006 at 5:14 pm:

    i kinda suspected as much, but i have a tendency to be wrong, lol.

  • Comment by Pidgey on April 13th, 2006 at 8:17 pm:

    “the word “cunt” had taken on such an extremely crude and pejorative meaning when related to women, and was seen as so inherently sexist – to attack a women by referring insultingly to her genitalia”

    Personally I dislike this view. ‘Cunt’ is a word that denotes more than/nothing to do with a vagina any longer, and as such (certainly where I come from) should not be claimed (or reclaimed) by feminists as part of a power struggle. Simply because a cunt is a twat is a gange. They all mean one thing: idiot.

    There’s a pretty interesting article here on the regional meanings of my third favourite word during an argument: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunt

    What I mean to say is: ‘Cunt’ doesn’t (any longer) mean vagina, but just an asshole.

    And by asshole I mean twat.

    Wait, that means idiot too.

    How fucking confusing can this get?

    Everything is just genitals.

  • Comment by drew on April 14th, 2006 at 12:06 am:

    i think what caitlin is saying, and my understanding of it, as i think the book “cunt…” probably talks about is similar to how african americans use the word nigger when referring to eachother. like in a lot of hip hop/rap. i think its an attempt to reclaim it and to topple the assumed pregudices that most prople prescribe to these words. or perhaps im just an idiot.

  • Comment by tom on April 14th, 2006 at 12:13 am:

    well i think youre all a bunch of beautiful cunts. i think in any type of “ism” or life in general, words are but words, usually from a forgotten time when (and still) pricks ruled the world. actions are what counts.

    twat? i cunt hear you. did you say jets? im sorry, are we still in ‘96? well, id rather see the jets than the fucking loser leafs.

    GO HABS GO, cunts, pricks. fuck you.

  • Comment by tom on April 14th, 2006 at 12:51 am:

    well i just found a bunch of pretty bad, often funny, and tanned european peepeegandhi pictures. ok, i am drunk and sonted and fucking bore!

  • Comment by tom on April 14th, 2006 at 11:12 am:

    here is the link:

    http://www.edition-p...opagandhi/index.html

  • Comment by caítlin on April 14th, 2006 at 12:13 pm:

    Drew – exactly :)

    I’m not too fussed how other people see it, using words in a new sense is just one of those things that cheers us up every so often. But here Cunt definitely is not like twat etc, and I’m guessing thats why its Cunt I like to see in a different light. Whatever.

  • Comment by kale on April 14th, 2006 at 7:19 pm:

    i would say that we’re still in the ball park here…

  • Comment by Jennifer on April 14th, 2006 at 7:19 pm:

    cunt is used in the same context as dick, I don’t really see any parallels with black people using ‘nigger.’ Women can not only refer to other women, but other men as ‘cunts.’ Or ‘dicks.’ Or vice versa. The PC-undertones really don’t add up (at least for me), so I don’t take any offense to being called a cunt as much as I’d be called a dick or idiot or anything else. If the original meaning of the word gets bastardized, welcome to linguistics. It happens.

  • Comment by kale on April 14th, 2006 at 7:21 pm:

    so i guess i understand now, plus, i always had a hunch.. that wimmin is to be seperate from women (wo-Men).. claiming independence, right?

    i cant put it into words, but can you see what im saying?

  • Comment by caítlin on April 15th, 2006 at 5:04 am:

    Yeah, Wimmin is the plural of womyn, as far as I’m aware, so there is no need for “men” part. Only a marginal number of feminists use it, but you can see where they’re coming from.

  • Comment by jake on April 15th, 2006 at 11:14 am:

    hey, great show! i especially like the line where jord farts, and derek (derrick, haha) goes “that’s not ever our–” and jord’s like “did you say that’s not even art?” hahaha, classic…

  • Comment by jake on April 15th, 2006 at 1:49 pm:

    which derek is it that works at g7, hogue or riel? :-P

  • Comment by Benjamin Grundy on April 15th, 2006 at 1:53 pm:

    Hogue

  • Comment by Danarcho on April 15th, 2006 at 5:46 pm:

    Woo! Tickets to the Leafs game on Tuesday are mine! It’s practically a playoff game seeing as they wont get in and all.

    Yeah I live in Toronto but I just like the Jets.

    I love how offtopic everything here gets.

  • Comment by rick on April 16th, 2006 at 8:35 pm:

    “The funniest thing about this photo isn’t the can taped to Chris’ unruly groin. It’s the fact that a 17-year-old Derek seems to be the one enjoying it most.” – Propagandhi website

    ha… that just *sounds* so funny!

  • Comment by tom on April 17th, 2006 at 7:49 pm:

    you should interview jaggi singh from noii, and prop should do a split with jaggi!

  • Comment by Hairhole on April 20th, 2006 at 8:53 pm:

    Is it just me, or does it seem like the song ‘One Celled Creature’, on the latest Nofxian effort, is about that Glen guy in Propaphanooter?

  • Comment by rick on April 20th, 2006 at 9:56 pm:

    “Life on a mattress in a robe, in a room full of emptiness
    Knowledge has much better uses than self-pitty and superiority
    Maybe you are or could be the next Hoffman, Mahatma, or Chomsky
    But no one will ever know
    A sum of your parts are not gonna change any hearts not with hate in your eyes
    In order to lead by example you have to show a path to a better world, not a cell”

    could be….

  • Comment by Benjamin Grundy on April 22nd, 2006 at 1:46 am:

    I’m not exactly what you would call smart, but considering it has a lyrical excerpt from anti-manifesto and mentions the pic of Glen from the PCL booklet, I would sure say so.

  • Comment by jerkemy on April 24th, 2006 at 5:31 pm:

    Ooh! ZING!

    Except Propagandhi’s jabs at NOFX raise valid points, whereas Fat Mike making fun of a goofy, tongue-in-cheek photo is just kind of weird and stupid. Sort of like reviewing “This Is Spinal Tap” and writing a long essay critiquing the band’s dumb lyrics.

  • Comment by drew on April 25th, 2006 at 2:05 am:

    jerkemy has got it right. also, fat mike claiming that prop is assuming superiority and self pity is completely off the mark, and just downright stupid. at least in my opinion. because i dont feel that from prop for a second. oh, and what in the fuck is the “hate in your eyes” part all about? hate? give me a fucking break. he must have somehow missed the first quote in the PCL booklet.

  • Comment by buck on April 26th, 2006 at 9:53 pm:

    http://www.edition-p.../propagandhi/25.html

    hahahahaha… who ever found these pics is a hero!

  • Comment by tom on May 1st, 2006 at 9:02 am:

    yes, i found those pics, and yes, i am a hero.

    why is everyone so caring about whatever fat mike or glen say about each other? theyve been taking jabs for years (as far back as the how to clean a couple o things 7″) and i just see it as two friends poking fun, but i dont really give a shit about it. punk rock media sensationalizes it. who cares?

  • Comment by Rob on May 7th, 2006 at 12:28 am:

    If indeed the United States invades Iran, they will be all but hammering the final nail into their imperialistic coffin. Haven’t they done enough damage to the Iraqi economy and people? How much have they stolen and squandered from the so called “rebuilding” of Iraq? The gross now gaining into the billions of dollars and possibly more just to attempt to solidify a foreign oil interest.

    Do they not understand the Iranian’s complete and total hatred of America? Thanks to the red white and blue and the installed Shah back during the second world war, they have gone from a strong, independant rich nation to one of poor economy, poor health care and poor education.(education isn’t as poor as the USA though, considering these so called “smart” people re-elect a fool to be president who’s only concern is his personal welfare and continuance. )

    After the assasination of their leader and the Shah’s inheritance, uncountable money and lives have been lost on account of a man who enjoyed the american lifestyle so much he neglected his own people, then killed anyone who stood against him, finally fleeing the country where he was told by his close pals back in the states to pretty much(excuse my language) “Go fuck yourself, your a liability” when he tried for assylum under the stars and stripes. Soon after Iraq led by the tyrant Suddam Huissein, strengthended by american built weapons and chemical weapons not used since the first world war invaded Iran, but was ultimately pushed out due to lack of strategic intelligence. (and we see how they too were treated as “allies” by the USA in the Gulf War and the Iraq war, seems they only intend to be allies with tyrants when it suits their corrupt political agenda).

    Now they want to invade because Iran intends to inrich uranium and complete their own atomic program. Yeah okay, what only the corrupt governments can have them? Lets see now… Remember the Cold War? What happened there? Fuck off Bush. You just want to invade another Arab country because you want their oil fields too. Whats next? Oh how about tackling the genocide in Darfur right now? No that would be too much like aiding a country, the US tends to go in and put the country into a state of regression and they can’t achieve that over there, Darfur has nothing they want.Looks like another Rwanda too me. Yet they want to attack a nation that only wants the ability to defend itself.

    All I have too say as a human being and a muslim is the United States is quickly becoming an enemy of the world, not just one nation as their only concern is a number printed on 2 sides of a piece of paper.

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