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Katrina analysis and resources

Posted by on 09/09/05 (Shite)

We thought it might be worthwhile to mention some resources and analysis in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Obviously this is a pretty fucked-up and nightmarish disaster. It’s obvious that the thousands of people thought to be dead did not have to die, and that this was not as much a natural disaster tragedy as a collosal policy failure (or malicious policy consequence). But I’ll let these articles speak for themselves.

The burning question is this: will Bush now declare a Global War on Weather? Any country harbouring bad weather will be held accountable? You’re with us or you’re with the meteorologists?

Some analysis:

As well, with the flurry of organizations soliciting money for relief efforts, our friends at Clamor smartly posted a link to some progressive relief organizations, in the case that you were looking to donate. See the list here.

We’d also like to point to you to PeTA’s action alert asking people to pressure FEMA to allow efforts to rescue animals left behind to go forth.

Lastly, check this video out. Too hilarious and right-on.

UPDATE: There is an excerpt of an article titled “The Uses of Disaster” by Rebecca Solnit on the Harper’s Magazine website which is definitely worth reading. Pretty powerful, very well-written. Read it here.

UPDATE: Just got this great article regarding the fundraising efforts that is a refreshing change from the “donate!” mantra. It’s worth noting that this and the Parenti article are part of the ZNet Sustainers program, of which G7 is a subscriber. Get more info on it here.

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  • Comment by xFirecrackerx on September 9th, 2005 at 2:55 pm:

    1. Great stuff. All three of those articles make excellent points.

    2. One thing I noticed that was really fucked up -
    During the first few days, the police were told to stop the rescue effort and instead protect the profit margins of MNC’s like Wal-Mart from so-called “looters” who were “stealing” food and clothes to survive. Not too long after that, the military showed up and was instructed to “shoot to kill” anyone that defied their authority. Misplaced priorities.

    3. Thanks for putting up the link highlighting the animal rescue issue, the animals need all the help they can get.

    It’s terrible that people aren’t being allowed to take their companion animals with them. It’s the same human-over-non-human oppression we see everyday. Total speciesism.

  • Comment by CamperKid on September 9th, 2005 at 3:01 pm:

    I like to just add that Pat Robertson (as most of you may already know) is a steaming pile of maggot infested dung. (Do maggots occupy dung? I’d like to think so at least.)

  • Comment by xFirecrackerx on September 9th, 2005 at 3:12 pm:

    ^That article you linked in your name is great. It just shows how much Bush needs Pat Robertson and rest of the flock from the Christian right in order to keep his approval ratings up.

    Words from the director of FEMA –
    MICHAEL BROWN: If they’re willing to work, if they’re willing to help, we’re not turning help away, we’re not turning away help from anybody.

    Actions of the Bush administration –
    http://today.reuters...38;srch=cuba+doctors

  • Comment by marc on September 9th, 2005 at 6:44 pm:

    “It’s the same human-over-non-human oppression we see everyday. Total speciesism.”

    I hope that If my fellow man is drowning in an ocean, he is worth saving over a fucking squirrel. You’re losing touch with reality.

  • Comment by Craig on September 9th, 2005 at 6:49 pm:

    Here is something that I haven’t seen too many people talking about yet: the legislative and executive branches of the U.S. government have already begun to use this horrible disaster as a justification for seizing additional powers. Specifically, Congress has already begun to attack the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.

    I’ll try not to bore you with too much detail, but that law basically created a barrier that prevents (or at leasts hinders) the government from using the federal military as a police force.

    Just as they capitalized on post-9/11 fear to create the police state apparatus known as the DHS (Department of Fatherland — excuse me, Homeland — Security), they are now blaming this “antiquated” law for their “inability” to act (“our hands were tied,” is Chertoff’s mantra).

    Bush no longer has a need to campaign. Public opinion isn’t as big a danger as it was in the past. He has built up a mountain of political capital and is now on a spending spree. He’s cashing it in on a militarized society. And the beauty of it is that no matter who wins the election in ’08, the privileged class will still be at the reins of this new police state. It’s a win/win situation for Republicans and Democrats alike.

    -Craig

  • Comment by JohnT on September 9th, 2005 at 10:32 pm:

    In reference to Craig’s response:

    I’m not sure who coined the phrase, but I heard it from Noam Chomsky…the “new norm” is that we are losing our rights everyday (in the USA) and most people aren’t even second guessing it. Some people, if not most, haven’t thought twice about the military presence becoming the new law in New Orleans (except of course those living there). It’s like we’ve become accustomed to having less rights and now it’s nothing unusual for martial law to maintain the “peace.”

    I’m just glad GWB and Cheney haven’t used this time to gain positive photo ops :o) …

  • Comment by D-Rock on September 9th, 2005 at 11:10 pm:

    Marc: I may be wrong, but I don’t think there was anything in Firecracker’s comment that implied some sort of choice between a person and a non-human animal. They were simply saying – as I was – that non-human animals are worth saving too. And in fact, in some cases, I would say worth saving moreso. But don’t get me started … don’t even get me started!

  • Comment by caítlin on September 10th, 2005 at 5:37 am:

    Marc – why does it have to be one or the other?

    Just got a mail from PETA, bit too long to post but here’s the jist;

    http://www.helpingan....com/f-dpetition.asp – petition “urging President Bush to ensure that animals are protected in future disasters.”

    https://ebiz.isiserv...ection_code=I03A3B0A – Animal Emergency Fund for those of you with a few spare pennies. It “will help provide the financial and logistical support for those at ground zero who are directly helping animals as well as help PETA do whatever else is possible to get animals out of harm’s way when disaster strikes in the future. ”

    - There’s going to be an ad in today’s Washington Post slaming the governments response to animals in the aftermath of the hurricane. You can see it at helpinganimals.com but its a pdf so I can’t link it.

    - PETA are asking you to call, write or email Bush and Senator Collins asking them to include the treatment of animals in the forthcoming investigation about the reactions to the hurricane. “Tell Bush and Collins that America must set an international example and that animals must be part of any disaster response plan”

    President George W. Bush
    The White House
    1600 Pennsylvania Ave. N.W.
    Washington, DC 20500
    202-456-1111
    202-456-2461 (fax)
    comments [at] nullwhitehouse [dot] gov

    Senator Susan Collins, Chair
    Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
    172 Russell Senate Office Building
    Washington, DC 20510
    (202) 224-2523
    (202) 224-2693 (fax) or email Collins;
    http://collins.senat...low/contactemail.htm

    - This really sucks; FEMA drafted guidelines with PETA and other AR people about how to deal with animals in emergencies. Then they ignored the lot… Apparently going so far as to; “order citizens to abandon their animals under threat of arrest—animals who in many cases were considered members of the family and were all that these people had left.”

    (Sorry the links arent prettier, im fucking abominable with HTML and all that stuff.)

  • Comment by caítlin on September 10th, 2005 at 7:11 am:

    Holy fuck -
    http://www.helpingan...latestnews0909am.asp

    that is just disgusting.

  • Comment by Kyle on September 10th, 2005 at 11:43 am:

    So I was watching the Discovery Channel… and yes, maggots do live in dung. (It provides the warmth and moisture they need!)

    I know sometimes you have to check your paradigm (so to speak), but this is crazy. People say it’s not in anyway George W’s fault — but after doing some reading, it’s obvious that he’s indirectly responsible… no, fuck that. When you are responsible for cutting funds, you are directly responsible for the outcome.

    And how the fuck does someone like Pat Robertson get so much clout? Seriously now, let’s pray for vacancies on the Supreme Court; maybe we should assassinate Chavez…

    What the fuck?

    Finally, why is television telling me that the Red Cross is the only organization that exists?

  • Comment by xFirecrackerx on September 10th, 2005 at 8:18 pm:

    Thanks for understanding Derek (and Caitlin, too!).

  • Comment by drew on September 10th, 2005 at 8:51 pm:

    those three articles posted are great. especially the michael parenti one. i agree with a lot of what was said in the “Did Katrina Blow Off the White Sheets of American Racism? ” but im not sure if i think the war in iraq is really a racial thing. that seems to be pushing it a bit. its so hard sometimes to know what to believe. there’s so much information out there and weeding through it all can just be so crazy (but luckily we have people like chomsky and others who bring the other side of things to surface and discuss them). how do you all think race played into this hurricane disaster? i mean, was the U.S. federal government’s response lax simply because the victims were predominantly poor and black. i do think that played into it, but is the issue that black and white? ahh. im kinda blabbering. but its always good to just keep thinking and questioning.

  • Comment by chris on September 10th, 2005 at 9:03 pm:

    I’m not sure who coined the phrase, but I heard it from Noam Chomsky…the “new norm” is that we are losing our rights everyday (in the USA) and most people aren’t even second guessing it. Some people, if not most, haven’t thought twice about the military presence becoming the new law in New Orleans (except of course those living there). It’s like we’ve become accustomed to having less rights and now it’s nothing unusual for martial law to maintain the “peace.”

    I don’t see how its extreme or Draconian for the police/military to maintain order in a completely devastated city. Am I a product of my system, conditioned to accept it, or am I just being reasonable?

  • Comment by 4130Punk on September 11th, 2005 at 8:22 am:

    My take on the handling of Hurricane Katrina is that it seems like a tug of war between the mass media and the government of who can sink to the lowest level.

    And you’re right Caitlin, that was pretty disgusting. I am no scientician, but if you shoot a bunch of dogs and just leave them to rot, wouldn’t that create more disease?

  • Comment by thomas on September 11th, 2005 at 12:02 pm:

    I personally think that saving a human being is more important than saving an animal. Unless it was an oil baron,or Bush, but in my opinion, the whole human/non-human rescue debate is just a distraction, from the real issue of the US government being incapable and unwilling of doing anything EXCEPT starting wars and drilling for oil. I wouldnt be surprised if they started drilling in New Orleans.

    And wasn’t Bush STILL ON VACATION for three days AFTER Katrina hit New Orleans? This whole facade of responsible representation is so utterly depressing, that it’s actually become laughable.

    Animals are often very loved companion (i have 4 dogs, 2 horses, and 1 pony), but in the face of your city being swallowed by nature in effect BEING LEFT ON YOUR OWN by “your” “government”, i might just have to sorrowfully let go of my animal friends.

    GO DOGGIE PADDLE!!!!!!

    love to new orleans

  • Comment by caítlin on September 11th, 2005 at 4:47 pm:

    Blair is quite fond of inappropriately-timed holidays too.
    i dont know Thomas… i get very frustrated to think all we do is sit and anaylse when there are lives – human and nonhuman – at stake. Is looking out for the animals less important than coming to the same conclusions we’ve all reached a thousand times before? Should we be banging on our drums, or should be active in doing what we can for those still stranded? Im not saying now is a time to do some patriotic “pull together for god and country” bullshit that numbs any questioning instinct, but we’re looking at a lot of maligned lives (again, human and nonhuman) who need us to move more than ever, and it is essentially down to us – if your government arent going to do it, and mine sure as hell arent going to help you do it right, I think the focus should be on protecting as many as possible. [a lot of people here are very reluctant to help, no one sees why they should give money to the richest country in the world. But I guess thats how America got there in the first place.] You could almost see some of the left here rubbing their hands with glee, desperate to say “we told you so”. Not that i’m accusing you of that!
    Of course, kneejerk reactions are definitely not the way to go – and there’s *always* life at stake, i guess.. I just really dont believe its so necessary to segregate. Regardless of what you think when it comes to animal rights vs human, i dont see any reason not to try and protect them. The polarisation of new orleans has been its downfall, it would seem (at least from a humanitarian perspective) – and this is another one – ignoring the fact that our animal companions are very often our family, our sources of joy and love and nevermind that, living creatures within their own right.

    I think most people are in crisis mode right now, thinking “what can be done to save those at risk?”. The causes of the situation and those which are exacerbating it are even being (minorly) covered by the mainstream media – but who is sticking up for the thousands of stranded animals? I hope I’m not coming across as a precious selfrighteous prick here and I’m definitely not attacking you..
    I havent a fucking clue what I would do in that situation. I prefer my cat to my brother without a doubt, but who knows who would take priority? do we need to get caught up in hypotheticals like that?
    Anything you do, to help any being in need, is honorable.

  • Comment by caítlin on September 11th, 2005 at 4:59 pm:

    Chris; I think martial law is a dangerous, unnecesssary thing (something similar has been introduced previously over here, to very, very bad effect) but what I think spooks people so much – as one of those articles said – was the priority that products were taking over people. If I had no water, no food, of course I would go to Walmart or whatever and take some. Why the hell shouldnt I? Its my life vs their profits and they’re told to shoot to fucking kill. Thats the priority and its ridiclous. Their role should be humanitarian and if it was, for once I would embrace their presence. Its not unreasonable to expect the institutions whose theoretical responsibility it is to [like it or not] retain order, to do so. But is – or should – “order” be food and water and shelter for everyone, or should it be protecting the interests of the people who could afford to get out, if indeed they were anywhere near there in the first place?

  • Comment by chris on September 11th, 2005 at 7:16 pm:

    Oh, I wasn’t even talking about the looting. In fact, I was crippled with anger when I read the headline: “Cops diverted from search and rescue missions to stop looting.” Property took higher priority than lives.

    I’d rather the few amount of troops maintain order (as in, preventing crime and violence) and allow the local authorities to carry out search and rescue. But that’s not how it turned out, and I can see how you can object to that.

  • Comment by thomas on September 11th, 2005 at 7:19 pm:

    my rant totally is not an i told you so. pointing fingers doesnt help when your hand is the only part of your body above the water.

    Yes its easy for me to just be critical of what i see through the media. and these conversations and analyses do nothing to help the people who are stuck down there. but i mean, when i see a helicopter puppy dog rescue on CNN (which they featured for 10 minutes!) , i cant help but think- what are they covering up? depending on a mainstream point of view is completely useless when it comes to a natural disaster, or a war, or anything.

    i do think that the rescue effort should include non-human animals as well, it makes sense in every way. sanitarily, emotionally. our puppy and kittie friends mean a lot to us.
    we should send whatever help we can through progressive institutions under the intentions of helping other human beings and non-human beings as well, and not under some kinda “we must do this because it is the christian way” guise. does that make sense?

    i totally agree with you catherine. all should be saved. but that wont happen.

  • Comment by Marc on September 11th, 2005 at 7:36 pm:

    Oops. I kinda took a statement and ran with it (into a wall). After looking back..I realize it wasn’t a “one or the other” type of deal. I feel that money in the form of helpful(read: REAL) aid for human beings should be top priority until every last human in trepidation is fine, then we worry about the animals.

    This isn’t to say I advocate for killing or NOT saving animals…but specieism or not, there’s something wrong with saving an animal over any human being.

  • Comment by xFirecrackerx on September 13th, 2005 at 8:39 am:

    Again…

    http://www.peta.org/AnimalLiberation/
    http://www.veganoutr.../starterpack/qa.html
    http://www.veganoutr...pack/speciesism.html

  • Comment by Neil on September 13th, 2005 at 2:07 pm:

    Thank you for those firecracker. Very informative. I only hope that others who SHOULD read it, do actually read it too. (Hint, hint, Marc)

  • Comment by everyoneisdoomed. on September 13th, 2005 at 2:37 pm:

    my apologies if this has already been mentioned, because i only got a chance to skim this last string of bloggery…

    many people (including the mass media) have been talking and reporting on companion animals in the hurricane relief and rescue efforts, with very good reason. still, no one seems to be talking a whole lot about the “farmed” animals trapped in factory farms after the disaster.

    organizations like farm sanctuary were initially denied access to farmland on the gulf coast because farm animals have a special property status and they could have been charged with big-time theft if they saved any chickens caught in hurricane-mangled battery cages… i’m not trying to place one animal’s suffering over another, but these seem to me to be the truly forgotten victims of this disaster. in many cases, disaster “clean up crews” are literally BULLDOZING factory farms while animals were still alive in the wreckage.

    —————————
    for more on what farm sanctuary is doing now:

    http://www.farmsanct...rescue_hurricane.htm

    for radio interviews with some animal rescue organizations involved (including comments from farm sanctuary regarding the plight of farm animals):

    http://www.animalvoi...es.ca/shows.htm#ears
    —————————

  • Comment by Craig on September 13th, 2005 at 3:30 pm:

    Chris:
    Regarding your comments about how federal troops being used to aid in disaster relief could be a good thing — I don’t disagree with you.

    I believe it is totally reasonable to expect that society’s available resources ought to be allocated to aid society, and that includes military manpower when appropriate (not necessarily their firepower — I’m talking about the aid that their equipment and training could provide).

    The unreasonable part is the idea that the disaster was made worse because the federal government lacked enough authority to do an effective job. This was the argument made after 9/11 when they tore down the barrier between our intelligence (CIA) and law enforcement (FBI) agencies. The new argument is that the executive didn’t have enough authority to use the military in disaster relief… And they blame laws that have, to some degree, protected our society for almost 200 years.

    -Craig

  • Comment by caítlin on September 14th, 2005 at 3:45 am:

    Another email from PETA, again too long to copy but the jist is;

    - Please take a moment right now to send an e-mail to Rep. Tom Davis and Rep. Henry Waxman of the House of Representatives Government Reform Committee, which will hold hearings this Thursday, September 15, on the federal government’s response to Hurricane Katrina.

    Please ask the committee chair, Rep. Davis, to allow PETA to testify about the plight of animals affected by disasters such as Katrina during their hearings. Let him know that the suffering of human hurricane victims was only heightened by the federal blockades that prevented humane agents from rescuing animals and by evacuators’ insistence that animals be abandoned to die. Please also urge Reps. Davis and Waxman to ensure that the well-being of animals be included in any local, state, or federal disaster response plan. It is absolutely crucial to call or send an e-mail today and tell your neighbors to do the same.

    E-mail Rep. Davis [http://tomdavis.house.gov/davis_contents/center/contactus/]
    or call him today at (202) 225-1492.
    E-mail Rep. Waxman [http://www.waxman.house.gov/contact.htm]or call him today at (202) 225-3976.

    - At PETA headquarters, an official with the Federal Emergency Management Agency told us Friday afternoon that the agency had received many phone calls about the forced abandonment of animals in New Orleans and that such orders are no longer followed or issued. Congratulations—this is your victory! That same day, Lt. Gen. Russel Honore, commander of the First U.S. Army and the official in charge in New Orleans—who PETA asked on September 6 to allow animals to be evacuated with their families—announced that his agents will have animal carriers to facilitate evacuating cats and dogs as they evacuate the city’s remaining human residents.

    - and again, http://www.peta.org/...lertItem.asp?id=1524

    I absolutely agree with you about non-companion animals…. the scale of suffering is just unthinkable. As the evacuation of dogs and cats only shows. Its just insanely overwhelming… what – outside of disaster time – can you do? If they drafted their response with animal rights organisations and then just feckin ignored it, what sort of preventative measures can WE take outside of just the everyday work? That organisation looks amaaazing!

  • Comment by Chris on September 14th, 2005 at 8:16 am:

    Well, Craig, they actually severed disaster relief planning ties between FEMA and local/state organizations in July… which quite possibly made the situation much worse.

    For example, the Superdome was universally recognized as the headquarters for refuge during a disaster in New Orleans, yet no supplies were stocked there before the hurricane hit.

  • Comment by Bojan on September 15th, 2005 at 7:21 am:

    Hi everybody I won’t get into your discussion.I’m from Croatia so I haven’t been introduced with all of the aspects of this disaster.Just would like to say that it’s pretty awful what is happening out there, and from my point of view it’s pretty apsurd maybe even ironical that governments of some extremly poor countries like Cuba or North Corea are offering or sending their help to the victims of the hurricane through the US government. As you probably know Bush managed to collect 40 billion dollars only three days after September 11 for his “war on terrorism”. I’m not sure is he collecting money that fast like he did back than.

  • Comment by Kyle on September 15th, 2005 at 5:43 pm:

    So Bush has admitted that he didn’t exactly act appropriately. Although it’s nice that he recognized this, it’s not really helpful, know what I mean?

    Yes, Bojan, it’s weird how quickly he was able to collect money after 9/11/01… and I thought I heard that help was being turned down after Katrina went through. Of course, having so much of the country’s resources in Iraq doesn’t help.

    Speaking of Iraq, I once read that Josef Stalin didn’t care about how things were going ‘at home’, he just had a desire to spread his version of Communism.

    …Not that I’m saying Bush doesn’t care, but I have my doubts.

  • Comment by watchout on September 16th, 2005 at 4:26 pm:

    Here is an ABC news clip interviewing a witness who lived in a neighbourhood where one of the levy’s breached.
    They insist the levy was blown up by explosives to allow the water to fill up the poorer areas of New Oreleans.

    watch the clip
    http://www.prisonpla...05explosivesblew.htm

  • Comment by watchout on September 16th, 2005 at 4:53 pm:

    there is no doubt animals are important but when the poorest state in the union which is New Orleans is flooded with over 500,000 people displaced, many people dead or stranded forced evacuations and gun confiscation, martial law and the people in need are not receiving anything. Saving animals drops down in importance in my opinion. I agree with thomas this is defintly a side issue ment to distract the public from the real issues such as No-Bid government contracts to haliburton, the amount of oil under new orleans and the fact the government has known the implications of a hurricane over new orleans for 50 freakin years. People are dying and to make your priorities animals shows how brainwashed people are. We are so decensitized to the loss of human life but if there is a humane society donation show we shed tears when a puppy gets put down…. what about the 50 million aborted babies since 1990 what about the 9/11 being a govt up, what about the fake war on terror, or aids… This abandoment of the poor people in New Orleans is a disguiisting abuse of human rights.

  • Comment by D-Rock on September 16th, 2005 at 9:50 pm:

    what about the 50 million aborted babies since 1990?

    I may be wrong, but I thought that abortions removed fetuses, not babies.

    As for the rescue of animals being an issue to distract people, I highly doubt that PeTA encouraging people to pressure the authorities to allow people to rescue their pets is some sort of propaganda plant. Some people simply don’t want their companion animals to die. Deal with it.

    Human rights and animal rights are not mutually exclusive in any situation, and I’m tired of the foregone conclusion that it’s either one or the other.

  • Comment by caítlin on September 17th, 2005 at 9:57 am:

    I can accept the argument that soppy features on rescuing puppies avoids having to resort to actual investigative journalism and questions about the implications of the hurricane, but it also distracts from the thousands of animals who are stranded and arent going to be saved. The media is not our friend.
    I don’t know about you, watchout, but I certainly will feel more sorrow for a dead animal once living than for the end of the progression of a bunch of cells.
    The abandonment of the poor IS disgusting, and I don’t think anyone here would even contemplate arguing that. People seem to have the impression that caring about non-humans means we somehow want to detract from the protection of suffering humans, or that we consider it less significant. Its simply not the case, for me anyway – its an extension of the same thing and in my case, prompted by the same desire.
    I can’t watch that clip but I sincerly hope its not true… I guess I shouldn’t be surprised but, fuck, I am.

  • Comment by watchout on September 17th, 2005 at 12:15 pm:

    D – ROCk
    Where you not a once a fetus you dumbass!!

  • Comment by checkitout on September 17th, 2005 at 12:37 pm:

    http://www.infowars..../martial_law_911.htm

  • Comment by checkitout on September 17th, 2005 at 12:38 pm:

    research 9/11 it was an inside job!!

  • Comment by caítlin on September 17th, 2005 at 1:03 pm:

    Ah, so you do actually grasp the distinction between a foetus and a person? He was a foetus, he is now a person… He was once a twinkle in his daddy’s eyes, and later a chemical reaction in his mammy’s tummy – he is now a human being.

  • Comment by xFirecrackerx on September 17th, 2005 at 5:49 pm:

    Animal rights and abortion are two separate issues.

    Read this article:
    http://www.animal-la...library/abortion.htm

  • Comment by watchout on September 17th, 2005 at 8:34 pm:

    Yes animal rights are for the protection of animals and abortion rights are for the protection of human beings. I am not religious in anyway I think organized religion has brainwashed the masses for centuries but how is the killing of fetus or a potential human is only a relgious issue shows how ignorant and brainwashed the left is and buy the way it is well documented that many abortions take place after 12 weeks from conception and many have taken place even after 6 months when the fetus is basically a human. Abortion can be argued effectivly from both sides but killing is killing word!!!!!!

    Animals are important and deserve compassion but so does the human race.

  • Comment by watchout on September 17th, 2005 at 8:52 pm:

    cool article

  • Comment by caítlin on September 17th, 2005 at 9:37 pm:

    It isnt solely a religious issue at all.
    I fundamentally disagree with you about when a foetus becomes a human being, and the semantics of abortion seem relatively unimportant to me compared with the impact of anti-choice laws on women, but lets try a different approach…. killing may be killing, er, word, but giving preference (or according the same value) to an unborn, six month old “basically human” foetus over its mother (who logically has to be at least, what, 10?), a living, developed creature of the world, with a subsequently developed capacity to suffer and feel pain, is absurd.
    Again, please, we are not saying the human race does not deserve compassion. Most of the animal rights activists I know have become involved through their work for human rights. As D-rock say the two are NOT mutually exclusive.

  • Comment by Katrina Mutual Aid on September 19th, 2005 at 10:17 pm:

    http://www.commongroundrelief.org/
    http://realreports.blogspot.com/

  • Comment by tom on September 20th, 2005 at 10:50 am:

    What about the 500,000 iraqi CHILDREN destroyed by economic policy?

    “As for the rescue of animals being an issue to distract people … Deal with it.”

    Yeah OK. I never said that saving animals is a bad idea, personally i think its a good idea. never mentioned PETA propaganda either, brainiac. i agree that the “one or the other” mentality is a result of the general public being brought up to believe that animals are worth nothing. which is bullshit.

    and “Deal with it” ? you sound like my professor from high school. or my mom. is that a good thing? my professor was really hot in that person having authority over you kinda way.

  • Comment by caítlin on September 20th, 2005 at 11:17 am:

    I may be wrong – I manage it rather consistently – but I don’t think he was directing that at you, Tom. :)
    On a completely unrelated note, you have professors in highschool? Fancy schmancy!

    “What about the 500,000 iraqi CHILDREN destroyed by economic policy?”
    Mmmhmm. :(

  • Comment by caítlin on September 25th, 2005 at 4:43 am:

    Fucking hell.

    “New Orleans: Prisoners Abandoned to Floodwaters
    Officers Deserted a Jail Building, Leaving Inmates Locked in Cells ”

    WHY the hell would someone do that??

    Read this and fucking puke;
    http://www.commondre...news2005/0923-01.htm
    http://www.hrw.org

  • Comment by Dave on September 26th, 2005 at 8:33 am:

    Hey y’all, if you’re in Winnipeg there’s a public event this Thursday, details of which I’m pasting below, discussing the race and class dimensions of Katrina.

    The Hurricane Katrina Disaster: Racism, Class and Empire in Bush’s USA

    The loss of life and unrelieved suffering in New Orleans could have been avoided. Why were the warnings ignored? And why was the American Empire incapable of meeting the most basic human needs in the wake of Katrina?

    Speakers:

    Mathiur Rahman, who teaches International Development and Disaster Management Issues at U of M and the Menno Simons College (UW).

    Dave Brophy, active with the Winnipeg solidarity group Friends of Grassy Narrows and a member of the Winnipeg branch of the New Socialist Group

    Thursday, September 29
    Room 1L06 at the University of Winnipeg
    7PM

  • Comment by Jon Alexander on September 27th, 2005 at 4:02 pm:

    I would like to post on the artical being from texas, and an avid propagandhi fan as well as dereks news entrys. But I think that more from talking to the refugees, they make it sound more like a class thing, and I also think that they should treat the animals with the same priority as the humans, but the funny thing is they have a better chance out in the wild the we do. hahaha

  • Comment by xFirecrackerx on September 30th, 2005 at 5:50 pm:

    The “wall of separation” between church and state trampled again…

    FEMA Plans to Reimburse Faith Groups for Aid:
    http://www.washingto...AR2005092601799.html

    Also see the response from Americans United For Separation of Church and State:
    http://www.au.org/si...38;news_iv_ctrl=1241

  • Comment by caítlin on October 2nd, 2005 at 5:29 am:

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    ” If you haven’t already done so, please urge your U.S. representative to support House Resolution 3858, the “Pets Evacuation and Transportation Standards of 2005.” The bill—which would require local and state emergency preparedness authorities to include in their evacuation plans details on how they will accommodate companion animals—has been assigned to the Committee on Transportation & Infrastructure. You can register your support of H.R. 3858 with this committee’s members by calling 202-225-9446. Please do so today!”

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